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Bannerstone Questions 3 years 7 months ago #13918

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I am a pastor NW Louisiana and an older gentleman in my congregation gave me an artifact that he has had since the 30's. It was thought to have been found in Poverty Point in NE Louisiana. When he gave it to me he did not know what it was, he just knew that it was a indian artifact and that i was interested in them. I have searched the internet and have found many pictures that resemble it. I believe i have a bannerstone. If some of you more educated individuals can look at the pictures and give me your thoughts. Thanks
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Re:Bannerstone Questions 3 years 7 months ago #13921

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Re: Bannerstone Questions 3 years 7 months ago #13922

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Need to see a better picture. Take pictures from all sides. Need a picture of the hole. Use micro seetings and see if you can get a close up of material.

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Re: Bannerstone Questions 3 years 7 months ago #13924

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I just uploaded 6 of them in my profile.
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Re: Bannerstone Questions 3 years 7 months ago #13927

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It is looks like a quartz bannerstone and a very nice one, but I do not know if it is Poverty Point Culture. I have not seen any pictures of that type of artifact being found there. I will do some more research.

I would send it to Jim Bennett for a look over and certificate of authentication. This one is worth some money if validated as authentic.

This link will give you some information on the Poverty Point Culture, employees.oneonta.edu/walkerr/North%20America/Poverty%20Point.ppt.

This link will give you an overview of bannersstones. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1921.23.4.02a00040/pdf

Bannerstones were finely crafted, high-status objects that also likely had a very functional purpose as a weight for a spear thrower, also known as an atlatl. An atlatl is a straight shaft around two feet long, fitted with a handle at one end and a hook on the other; a spear was attached to the hook, and the added length of the atlatl allowed the user to throw with much greater force. When a bannerstone was slipped onto the handle of a flexible atlatl, and the added weight helped to smooth and stabilized the launch path of the projectile, allowing for even better force and accuracy.

Take a picture of the hole up close, use micro settings. I want to see into the hole to see how it was tooled out.

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Re: Bannerstone Questions 3 years 7 months ago #13928

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I said pverty point because the man who gave it to me was raised in NE LA. could have come from somewhere else.
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Re:Bannerstone Questions 3 years 7 months ago #13929

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Your Pictures:
Banner_Stone_Poverty_Point_6.jpg


Banner_Stone_Poverty_Point_5.jpg


Banner_stone_Poverty_Point_4.jpg


Banner_Stone_Poverty_Point_1.jpg


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Re: Bannerstone Questions 3 years 7 months ago #13930

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Gevan

Poverty Point is the largest and most complex Late Archaic site in North America. It was discovered in 1953 by an archaeologist who discovered the peculiar earthworks on aerial photographs taken by an Army mapmaker. This site is located in northeastern Louisiana in West Carroll County. It was in use for over one thousand years dating to between 3800 and 2500 years ago. These people produced the largest Archaic Period earthworks ever built in the United States. The house structures on this site were built on a series of six concentric semicircular embankments each measuring six feet high, 80 feet across and over 3600 feet long. A large bird effigy mound measuring 70 feet high and 640 feet across is also located on the Poverty Point site.

The Poverty Point culture was made up of several large and small settlement sites located in Louisiana and Mississippi. These people had a large network of trade relationships that brought in cherts from the north, steatite from the Appalachians and many other raw materials such as galena (lead), hematite, sandstone, jasper, slate, etc.

The Poverty Point culture developed a tradition of making high quality stylized carved and polished miniature stone beads. Other early cultures in the United States rarely used stone to make their beads opting for softer materials such as shell or bone. The fine cutting, engraving and polishing lapidary work these people did that resulted in such fine and unique art forms is quite remarkable. They were made in the image of many different animals that would have been common to their environment at that time. But they also made the more common tubular beads. The earliest recorded human figurines so far discovered in North America and made from fired clay were found on the Poverty Point site in Louisiana.

The people who were able to craft such creative artistry as exhibited in these wonderful sculptures must have lived during a time when their lives were more at ease, not under high stress as many other cultures before and after them. A situation that benefits us all to marvel at what they left behind.

Information from Lithic Casting Lab.


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Re: Bannerstone Questions 3 years 6 months ago #14082

JCSMAN, first off welcome to the site, I hope you enjoy your stay :)
For more information on bannerstones, please visit the links below

[url=http://http://arrowheads.com/bannerstones]http://arrowheads.com/bannerstones[/url]

http://arrowheads.com/index.php/component/content/article/315

Thanks for sharing your artifact with us and God bless!
Andrew Schwinn
Arrowheads.com Staff
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Re:Bannerstone Questions 3 years 6 months ago #14129

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Gevan

That bannerstone looks similar to the quartz bannerstones found at Indain Knoll Site. This is a good book to read if you are interested.

indianknoll20300.jpg


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Re: Bannerstone Questions 2 years 7 months ago #48817

Its a quartz butterfly bannerstone. Worth a bit of money if its authentic.
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